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Tag description A very short but clearly adult character with a compact frame but heavily pronounced curvy features (i.e. 'stacked'), such as large breasts, butt, hips and/or thighs.

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Osamu09 84d ago

Modified the description to better match @Aelter proposed description. Removed the previous note to avoid confusion

Description
-A very short-statured, petite adult character with a compact frame but pronounced curvy features, such as large hips, thighs, or bust relative to their height.

+A very short but clearly adult character with a compact frame but heavily pronounced curvy features (i.e. 'stacked'), such as large breasts, butt, hips and/or thighs.
Note
-someone mentioned something about "oppai loli" and so I figured we need this tag

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Osamu09 93d ago

Description
-A very short-statured, petite adult character with a compact frame but pronounced curvy features, such as large hips, thighs, or bust relative to their height

+A very short-statured, petite adult character with a compact frame but pronounced curvy features, such as large hips, thighs, or bust relative to their height.

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create tag orgy accepted Admin essentially said that aliasing is on the table.

OK, now I'm genuinely confused at the tenor of discussion. We've suddenly introduced 'midget', which I'm sort of like, OK isn't this just a case for a 'dwarfism' tag? But I think if this is now the drift, what you are actually describing is the no-less-problematic concept of スーパーデフォルメ ('super-deformed' https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/super_deformed. Or sometimes just abbreviated as 'SD'. I feel like we're getting close to what OP originally means by shortstack... If it is something like SD, then obviously, it's more inclusive term. But given the history, I think the tag would still have to explain the SD background, It's longstanding and fairly well known. It might actually be better if 'Chibi' was used instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chibi_(style) But again, I'm not actually clear if shortstack and these terms are equivalent translations. I kinda think they are.

I forgot to add the quote 'I think that "midget" has a negative connotation that implies they're ugly in some way' in my last comment as I was sleepy back then. Sorry, my bad. Also, if this tag proposal ever gets approved, one might want to look for some in the [bbw] plus [midget] tags.

Yeah, midget/short stature exists, but this is an exclusively porn related term that's used to describe a specific body type. They are thicc af, if you didn't understand.

Again, the [midget] tag already exists. If anyone has issues with the word being derogatory then they should have it renamed like the guy over here: rename midget short stature +17

while short woman *would* be fine, shortstack still works better for a few reasons -shortstack refers primarily to height AND chest size, but also, as mentioned in the post definition description, refers to general proportions, so having it makes for more effecient tagging -going off the previous point, since shortstack refers to a *specific type* of short woman, there's no conflict between it and shortwoman, meaning we don't necessarily have to pick and choose -shortstack is more sexually charged, and this is a 18+ doujin site, so if nothing else it does fit a little better anyways im still on team shortstack id love for this tag to be added

Agree with vagoo Short woman / short man is perfect - the Uzakis are short women but arent lolis, also gives the symmetry that the Tall Man / Tall girl implies. This would allow for the combinations of tall girl + short boy etc. Needed.

folks, as fun as shortstack is as a suggestion, no-one has mentioned we already have 'tall girl' https://nhentai.net/search?q=tag%3A%22tall+girl%22+ and 'tall man' https://nhentai.net/search?q=tag%3A%22tall+man%22+ There are no analogous 'short girl' and 'short man' tags. And the proposer is right that we need something. Personally, I would like both 'short man' and 'short woman' ('girl' is problematic, why don't we have 'tall boy'? — these tags precede the community taxonomy feature) I think we need this tag to align with the above tags. Agree it should filter loli content. But also if we have both genders short/tall combinations... well that's also a paraphilia situation people like: e.g. a larger partner with a shorter partner. If you had two analogous tags you could dial that specific interest in very easily.

Shortstacks and oppai loli are strictly mutually exclusive, please understand that already.

to summarize once again, "oppai loli" is a young-looking character with big breasts, while "shortstack" is a short adult-looking character with big breasts or other big features. The difference cannot be more obvious than this. One is a child, the other is not a child, as simple as that

Oppai Loli already exists as a tag though. would make more sense to update the name of Oppai Loli to "Oppai Loli/Shortstack"

@Osamu09 @Thussy even if they do not have to be an adult shortstack characters are always or atleast most of the time depicted as adults characters that are just shorts. also the tag is not limited to women as men can also be shortstacks

@Thussy you're right about this. It technically doesn't have to be an adult. I thought about it for a while, and I took a page from the "lolicon" description (made by the admins themselves). Let's change the "adult character" with "adult-looking character". Sometimes I wonder how I can be so smart

it goes into the question of the "Adult" part in the description as many work also doesn´t include loli as part of their appearance and could aswell be part of the appearance of Teens or examples of JK. And with the recent change of how people usually makes lolis now with bigger thighs and somtimes more curves Shortstack and Oppai loli is almost in the same theme.

tbh this one kinda hard to support because while i can see the difference with oppai loli, in terms for searching purpose, this one conflicted and basically the same with oppai loli. regardless, this one is useful tag if a lot of people (including me) needed this tag to exclude oppai loli which including underage and/or childlike appearance, act/behavior and mindset/thinking female characters

Anyone who is confused about the difference between oppai loli and shortstack please go to danbooru and try searching both, you will instantly see the difference visually. Also from their tag definitions: Shortstack: Literally "short" + "stacked"; a short woman who has large breasts and/or wide hips. Differs from oppai loli in that the shortstack is clearly a typical adult/adolescent in age despite their short stature, while an oppai loli appears childlike apart from the curves. Oppai loli: Used when a female child or child-like character has notably adult-sized breasts, but otherwise retains their child-like proportions.

@Gudale as a lolicon I can assure you that wasn't my intention Anyway I really think we can go ahead and accept the tag. Most people who disagree simply don't understand some of the nuances I would also like to add that to me shortstack is something different from a female goblin or dwarves, as for those cases I believe "midget" is a more appropriate tag. "midget" is actually a tag I'm not very familiar with, but I've never associated with just "short female". Like maybe it's just me but I think that "midget" has a negative connotation that implies they're ugly in some way, which makes it completely different from a loli or shota

Shortstack for me is when a woman has smaller posture/shorter than the man but doesn't have anything that shoe us that they're a Loli (Oppai Loli) Sometimes i want to read something like that but only Oppai Loli has it, and when i randomly read something i get the Shortstack but the tag doesn't help me find similar results

Oppai Loli is a meaningfully different term to Shortstack. For example, goblins women are typically excluded from Lolicon and thus Oppai Loli but included in Shortstack. Same with dwarfs. I disagree with others that Oppai Loli and Shortstack must be mutually exclusive however. Oppai Lolis are just Loli + Shortstack, its derived from Shortstack whereas Shortstack isn't derived from Oppai Loli. Hell, Shortstacks don't even need large breasts. See the League of Legends yordles for examples. Not loli, nor big breasts (tristana/lulu/vex specifically), but definitely shortstacks.

So besides the big breasts and / or curvy body, which you can still search for with proper tags. The huge difference between oppai loli and shortstack would be... height ? age ? I don't know man, seems awfully exclusive to add a tag specific for those things. Hell, even if it wasn't, if it's just because of height you COULD add a "short female" tag or something like that; but how do you differentiate that from a loli? Yes some examples are obvious but others are not you would have to retroactively ask every doujin the question "is your female involved character short AND not a loli?" which is kinda stupid imo since you could simply remove that term and be done with it. I get why this exists and I love shotstacks but I don't think it makes sense to add the term when you can easily achieve similar if not same results with appropiate search terms.

This tag suggestion was made by a closeted lolicon lmao

Oppai lolis and shortstacks are different. An oppai loli is a loli with huge breasts, simple as that (e.g Ilulu from Kobayashi). While shortstacks are short adult woman, with curvy bodies, that may or may not have big breasts, but they are not lolis (e.g imp Midna or female goblins).

Seems like this tag in effect combines "midget" and "big breasts" tags. "Adult" seems to be the key distinction from "oppai loli" and shortstack, although that would disqualify most short curvy highschoolers, unless "adult" in this context simply means -loli. To emphasize the distinction it might be worth explicitly stating in the definition that a character can not be simultaneously an "oppai loli" and shortstack, although with age progression an "oppai loli" could become a shortstack.

@Purplefeather I get that shortstack and oppai loli are similar concepts. But they're not the same even for japanese people. There are 2 reasons why they might refer to some characters as oppai loli. 1. being similiar concepts sometimes it's hard to draw the line. One such case being ilulu, and the main argument being the exaggerated size of her breasts compared to her height. I think of shortstacks as something more realistic looking. 2. shortstack is an english word, therefore it just makes sense that japanese people would use the closest native word which is oppai loli and they might just use it as a broader category. When I think about oppai loli I think about something like #210627 | Noja Loli Babaa Kitsune-sama Loli Kyony… | 2,401 , which is completely different from most of the characters you mentioned. Once again I think the difference lies in body proportions. And just because some japanese people might refer to a character as "oppai loli" doesn't mean that "shortstack" wouldn't be a more appropriate term

@petertje. Like I said shortstack is viewed as oppai loli in japan. Draphs are oppai loli, ilulu is an oppai loli, michinoku komaro, Kaede, uzaki tsuki. Are we viewing shortstack by what? Age or apperance here?

The [midget] tag already exists. If we go with the info from @peterje then there's also a need for a male equivalent, in which case the gender-neutral midget tag becomes even more irrelevant.

hell yeah this is a proposal I can get behind; the biggest beneficiaries would be #305196 | Imouto wa Mesu Orc | My Little Sister i… | 111,842 and the later books in the series (as they start to put a big emphasis on some of the girls being super stacked but half the size of the protag), #517374 | Chimikko Bakunyuu Hakase no Seiheki | A… | 44,142 (clearly grown woman as wide as she is tall, stuck in the midget tag), and just about every uzaki-chan wa asobitai doujin.

@purplefeather, shortstack and oppai loli and mutually exclusive terms. No shortstack is an oppai loli. No oppai loli is a shortstack.

Honestly this tags make no sense to me. Every shortstack is viewed as oppai loli by the japanese. Even ilulu is a popular oppai loli.

Shortstacks explicitly look adult, despite being small, due to the shape of their body. This separates them from oppai/legal loli that explicitly do not look adult (regardless of their real age). On exhentai the female:midget tag was effectively used for shortstacks. But since nhentai removes all the gendered info on tags when scraping, there isn't a gender distinction on nhentai. This tag would reintroduce that distinction for more clarity.

If you see a story about a goblin with big tits, Oppai loli is not the correct tag. Shortstack is definitely needed.

this is needed bc short women ≠ lolis. loli isn't just a body type (no matter what people try and say in its defense), it's also an age and mentality thing (both typically being childlike) and they usually experience a power imbalance because of this. i don't want any of that. i just want short women with big tits

@darksilence1 the description of the tag should suffice, but sure. Normally a loli is flat-chested or has small breasts at most. Legal loli is just a loli that's technically of legal age, often much older. The only exception is oppai loli which to be fair I'm no expert on, but on a surface level is a loli with big breasts relative to their body size. My best guess is that, other than the big breasts, oppai loli look exactly like lolis. A shortstack is instead just a short woman (or rarely man I suppose) with usually big boobs (or sometimes other large features I suppose). So on a surface level they look similar, but body proportions are gonna be different. To be honest I learned about the word from a manga, here's what a shortstack looks like https://mangafire.to/read/dungeon-tou-de-yadoya-wo-yarou-souzou-mahou-wo-moratta-ore-no-hosoude-hanjoukii.rlv0o/en/chapter-24 (on page 28 there's a full body drawing)

Can you explain the difference between legal loli?

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