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tag fatal surrender
Tag description When a sexual encounter results in an irreversible, life-altering consequence, permanently changing someone's body, soul, or fate for the worse. This may occur willingly, unwillingly, or unknowingly, and does not require death.
note I love the idea of a character giving into pleasure even if it means impregnating a girl or having his soul absorbed or losing years of his life. It can be used among many genres but nothing quite denotes this alone. I considered calling this Fatal Surrender, but this tag doesn't mean someone dies, their life is just changed forever,

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  1. thecurrupter 3d ago
    Description
    -When a sexual encounter results in an irreversible, life-altering consequence, permanently changing someone's body, soul, or fate. This may occur willingly, unwillingly, or unknowingly, and does not require death.
    +When a sexual encounter results in an irreversible, life-altering consequence, permanently changing someone's body, soul, or fate for the worse. This may occur willingly, unwillingly, or unknowingly, and does not require death.
  2. thecurrupter 5d ago
    Name
    -point of no return
    +fatal surrender
    Description
    -When someone is tangibly and irreversably changed forever in exhange for pleasure. This excludes virginity and moral degeration.
    +When a sexual encounter results in an irreversible, life-altering consequence, permanently changing someone's body, soul, or fate. This may occur willingly, unwillingly, or unknowingly, and does not require death.
  3. thecurrupter 5d ago
    Description
    -When someone is tangibly and irreversably changed forever due to the act of one or more orgasm(s). This excludes virginity and moral degeration.
    +When someone is tangibly and irreversably changed forever in exhange for pleasure. This excludes virginity and moral degeration.

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thecurrupter
thecurrupter
There was no respect in that but I understand. Fare thee well traveler!
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
with all due respect, i feel like im talking to a brick wall lol. anyways best of luck
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
I guess at this point fatal surrender is essentially the same as a fatal mistake, a fatal consequence, that is bourne from surrender.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
I also changed it to "For the worse" as this tag obviously implies a bad turnout.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
It's no the alteration he is surrendering to, it's her seduction, which as a consequence changes him forever, usually meant as a bad connotation. Like he is exchanging a part of himself for pleasure.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
Think of it like this. She wants him to cum. He doesn't want to cum. She makes him cum somehow, his surrender to her will changes his fate. They're 2 conditions that make up 1 tag. Someone must surrender to someone else's will, and that surrender will cause life altering changes. Since he surrenders to her seduction, he unknowingly loses his dick by cumming, which was what she wanted all along, thus changing his fate by surrendering. Fatal surrender.
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
btw I understand what youre getting at, im just saying the name and description are pretty confusing (at least they were to me anyways) again, to "surrender" is to give up knowing that you're powerless against xyz. this implies knowledge/willingness of the situation, but you already said that doesnt matter also, whether the character is willing or not is still contained within the shortened definition so long as "irreversible, life-altering consequence" occurs
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
Please if anyone has anything to say, reference my examples above first and the current going definition and tag. My examples explain themselves. If you are still in disagreement, please then read my further explanations below. If you are still not satisfied, I will happily discuss why I believe this tag covers a different concept that impregnation, mind break, snuff, moral degeneration, absorption, and edging don't quite cover the idea.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
And sometimes they give in, but don't know the consequences. That is unknowingly giving into surrendering themselves, their lives and fate, just for pleasure. Like the example I provided. The boy didn't know that he was going to lose his dick just for giving into her seductions but he lost it anyway. He wasn't mentally broken, he just stopped resisting and went for her.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
Mindbreak ALONE* just doesn't work for this.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
It CAN be similar to mindbreak, but it isn't mindbreak. Mindbreak just doesn't work for this. Look at the provided links. In several of them, the person who is changed forever gives in and is perfectly sane. They are not mind broken, their mind isn't dhattered, they just give in.
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
> Unknowingly could be like someone having their soul sucked out of them by a succubus but they don't know - Still encapsulated in the shortened version > His fate is permanently changed, thus "fatal" surrender - The "surrender" part implies some knowledge or awareness of the possible consequences. Again, too similar to mind break
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
His fate is permanently changed, thus "fatal" surrender. The page just before, he gave in, but he may not have to give in. The pleasure could be so great that his body chooses to even though he doesn't and it still happens.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
Unknowingly could be like someone having their soul sucked out of them by a succubus but they don't know. Another good example would be page 26, where he's just cumming away and he has no idea what's happening but there are permanent consequences.
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
also idt fatal surrender is a good name, too similar to mind break
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
i guess all mind breaks don't have to involve life-altering consequences honestly, this part was kinda confusing me "permanently changing someone's body, soul, or fate. This may occur willingly, unwillingly, or unknowingly, and does not require death" this seems to convey enough without muddying the waters with too much details: "When a sexual encounter results in an irreversible, life-altering consequence"
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
Moral degenration also only really implies the loss of morality or the mental adjustment. It does not imply a permanent physical or spiritual change, or a change of their fate.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
This is not moral degeneration, as this can occur even when the person it is occuring to may happen involunatrily.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
Please read the description and tags as they've been updated since before the last comment.
Osamu09
Osamu09
@thecurrupter I think that nobody other than you has any idea what "point of no return" is supposed to mean overall I think what you mean it's to basically succumbing to pleasure when there are serious consequences for doing so. It's really not that different from "mind break" or "moral degeneration". Actually if you check the current official description for "mind break" it's exactly this kind of thing (losing to pleasure) and it's even better described
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
I'm also tired of searching up snuff, absorption, and moral degeneration and seeing the most vile stuff just to find stuff like this.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
I changed it to fatal surrender. It means something slightly different but still applies to everyone of the provided examples.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
There are other examples of a woman whose core was able to be corrupted by demons if it came inside her, but during a test, she felt pleasure from the demon dry humping her and decided she wanted to feel the real thing regardless of the consequences and unzipped her pants and let it have its way with her. Point of no return, she became corrupted the moment it went in.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
Mind break is when your mind is literally broken. People willingly, or not, offer things that change them irreversably, even if they're mind isn't destroyed.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
Edging is being held on the edge of orgasm. Not the same thing at all.
thecurrupter
thecurrupter
Think of it like this. When you cum inside someone and impregnate them, that's a point of no return. When you cum inside a succubus and lose your soul, point of no return. When you nod your head to a doll that offers pleasure in exhange for your soul, point of no return.
thomaswalker
thomaswalker
Not saying your tag is bad. Just wondering how this would differ from mind break.
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
wouldn't necessarily say it's [edging], but it definitely sounds like [mind break]
Osamu09
Osamu09
Honestly I think that what you want is just an "edging" tag
Osamu09
Osamu09
there's many things that don't make a lot of sense with this idea. First of all the current proposed description specifies it has to happen due to an orgasm. It's so weirdly specific. Even more so if we want to exclude moral degeneration. Because an orgasm is just about feeling a lot of pleasure in a small amount of time, which can lead to someone wanting to experience more of it and going to extreme lenghts, that's what moral degeneration is in a nutshell, though it's a bit more complicated than that Anyway my point is that I don't really get what "irreversibly changed" is supposed to mean. It sounds objective, but it's actually very subjective. Like we change all the time, and we never go back to the exact same way we were before. But ok, I get this is supposed to be big changes. Well, what counts as a big change? Impregnation is a common tag, and I'm pretty sure you don't mean to say that all impregnation should be included in this tag