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Tag description As opposed to Netorare, this is where both members of a Closed Relationship Consent to one (or both) of them starting a Sexual Relationship with a Third Party(s). (Usually to fulfill a Masochistic Kink)

note explains its seperate from netorare and when to use. probably didnt need the parrenthesis part but it helps explain i guess

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A netorare revenge tag honestly should be added, great suggestion @fuckriri1234

@TreeSentinel69 sounds like revenge netorare/cheating, which is proposed in many different variations left a list of those proposals here create tag netorare revenge +23

What would be a proper subtag for A NTRing B or C, in which B & C are in a relationship?

Netorase is not the opposite of netorare?

Disagree, Its not masochistic. It can be one aspect but not every NTS has that as an element.

Isn't that just cuck or swinging?

Tried further reading some doujins titled netorase #492956 | Boku no Netorase Seiheki ni Tsukiatte k… | 5,895 #619436 | Netorase Trial Boku no Tame ni Neru Ka… | 4,757 #468720 | Kanojo o Netorase Fuuzoku ni Nante Tsur… | 5,057 And i identified 2 defining points 1. The cuck himself arranges for the partner to have sex with someone else 2. The cuck derives a type of pleasure from his loved one getting fucked by someone else, key point that differentiates it from "swinging" or just promiscuity For a short description i would go with "a scenario where a person intentionally allows and derives pleasure from his/her loved one having sex with someone else"

@Osamu09 sorry yeah, when I say consent, i mean it in like a broad way. it doesnt have to be enthusiastic consent or anyt just like... anything that isnt active non-consent ig? idk hard to put into words exactly @lord411 really like that description, my only issue with it is the wording is a bit vague with the "one's partner" part imagine A & B are married. B cheats with C. Some stranger, D, watches B and C fuck and has a "guilty pleasure of watching one's partner (aka B) have sex with a third party (aka C)" person D matches the description, but A isn't even aware of B & C. obviously not netorase, so the wording should just clarify that the "one's partner" refers specifically to A

A rough translation of pixiv description "guilty pleasure of watching one's partner having sex with a third party" Maybe use that as a placeholder for now

I read through some japanese sources and i have made a mistake in saying "consent" doesn't matter. Reading down @feroxium brings up an important point about "-あせる" verbs being "causative", in simple terms these kind of verbs or action require someone to cause it. So for 寝取らせる the cucked has to get himself cucked.

@fuckriri1234 I agree that there has to be some form of consent, it just doesn't have to be explicit or it can happen later (like the character realizes the fetish only after their partner is raped). I don't mind it if we add consent as part of the description

@40-sai i mean it's not even bad discussion rn @Osamu09 @lord411 @Necrochan im quite confused how there can be non-consensual netorase. like that just seems oxymoronic and leans more towards netorare. anyone got examples? if consent is a cornerstone of the tag, then I'd define it: For characters who consent to and derive pleasure from knowing or watching their partner have sex with another character if not: For characters who derive pleasure from knowing or watching their partner have sex with another character

Oh boy... (I'll spare myself the headache due from reading that certain other tag proposal 34c35317 -7f1a -4c25-b990 -c4293586601d and will not comment anymore on this particular proposal until further notice. How about you, @fuckriri1234, you want to deal with this one?)

to clear the confusion netorare - your wife leaves you and becomes "someone else's woman" netorase - you are still married and living with your wife, but she has become "someone else's woman" and you have been reduced down to a cuck it's different from cheating because the cucked must know about it. and it doesn't matter weather the cucked gives conset or not because that's the entrie point, his partner is now "property" of someone else

@fuckriri1234 I'd rather have it quoted in full: "often with consent at some point" signifying that if ever a doujin's story goes to netorare direction and cuck is no longer okay with it, consent was already given at some point. The phrase "lets his or her partner engage in cheating sex outside of that relationship" already locks in the insinuation that consent is given.

@ranchdong Will this definition work? It is where a person already in a relationship lets his or her partner engage in cheating sex outside of that relationship, often with consent at some point.

I'd really like to just get something described on this. Can we agree on something in the comments and open a new suggestion for the deeper discussion later

せ is the causative form of the verb. This means neither the female nor the bull is taking the lead -- The cuck *wants* to share her. Which means a story where she says "You don't get to sleep with me anymore" isn't 寝取らせ, it's 寝取られ NTS is about his desire to watch her fuck another guy, not about a bull stealing her, or her decision to date another guy.

"Masochism" isn't a main trait of netorase, I would even argue the opposite. Just because most content is tagged wrong, doesn't change the meaning. The main trait of NTS is the cuck wanting and enjoying it. Often from compersion ("hotwifing"), loaning her out to another. She might like that too, but she doesn't take the lead. It can of course involve jealousy and some teasing rank play ("I love how big/strong he is"). But the defining difference is that he consents, that she takes his enjoyment into account, and she doesn't threaten the emotional bond they have. She belongs to the cuck, and the cuck doesn't lose her. He actively decides to grant her a cheating-allowed pass. A story which switches to non-consented humiliation or heartbreak is essentially not NTS.

Netorase is definitely cuckolding while netorare is cheating

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I search it up and netorase is A genre of sharing or cuckoldry

Let's just defer to upstream and their invalid description. The larger audience of the site has come to expect that content with this tag even if it is technically incorrect or invalid

Netorase is also known as cuckolding btw

more than half maybe even more netorase tags here not netorase

I also meant the same the partner knows about there partner is having sex with someone else and they don't mind it or getting pleasure from watching/knowing it that there partner is fucking someone else. I actually put all possibilities of partner having sex with person other than the other partner as cheating, or the partner is not loyal to there partner as cheating.

@hentau15 cheating is not all sex with someone who's not your partner, cheating is doing that without permission. there are many forms of ethical non-monogamy like swinging, polyamory, or even simply allowing one's partner to be non-monogamous while still remaining monogamous oneself.

In a netorase (NTS) story the main character's love interest will screw around and the MC will like it or not mind it.

The shortest description would be "consent cheating". Where the character in relationship have sex with another character and the other character who is in that relationship known about there partner's cheating (doing sex with someone else). Btw if u guys like holding creampie of stranger in front of her bf or husband do check out holding cum tag. And I have a question for staff members what was the criteria for taxonomy and gts backlog approval.

So should we match upstreams invalid description @osamu09 till we have more tools to handle such a battle xD

@Idontpullout: Yes 🙌 Please, saying that ’netorase’ = ’cuckolding’ is equivalent to saying ’NTR’ = ’cheating’. We are better than this folks!

Everyone thinking netorase is cuck = lmao.

So like cuckery² ? Makes enough sense tho

and I just figured out where the whole issue is. On ehentai the definition of netorase is just wrong/different. Which also explains why 3/4 of netorase tagged works also have netorare

here's another example of a wholesome netorase #529873 | Otto Daisuki Kurumi-san (Netorasex Hen)… | 968

also I think that despair and arousal can coexist at the same time in a netorase scenario. And I think it should still count as just netorase

I actually agree with @Necrochan. Surprisingly most people are missing the point of netorase. It's about the character enjoying their partner/love interest fucking with someone else, actually enjoying it more than if they were the one having sex. If they just consent then it's much closer to swinging. If there's little or no enjoyment then it's netorare. If the enjoyment fades then I wonder if it should be tagged both "netorare" and "netorase"

@Necrochan Netorase is when the other partner is either aware of it or consents to it, at least at the beginning of the story. As for how things develop later, that's another matter. In your example, Seisozuma Netorase, the MC was the one who suggested it first after realizing he was a cuck.

Wrong and convoluted. Netorase only means the cuck is having the time of their life out of it. Consent is optional. Plenty of rape netorase out there, like Maccha Neji's "Seisozuma Netorase 4" where the cuck has the time of his life as he is powerless to save his wife from some horny hobos (cheff's kiss) Masochism is circumstantial. Like Zonda's "Boku no Kanojo o Netotte Kudasai" where the powercuck pimps his gf without her knowledge.

Swinging is trading partners, netorase is specifically where the character is aroused at their partner being with someone else. I'm unsure if swinging is considered a masochistic fetish.

Is this including Swinging?

So, this tag is a "Cuckold" or "Cuck" one.

#652022 | Tsuma Fes ~Aniyome Netorase Kounin Tane… | 11,727 like this one for example the third party is his brothers and they all love each other even when he comes back to embrace her very vast difference from the Netorase description There's wholesome netorase and there's bad cuckold netorase that feels mainly the same as Netorare where you feel depressed at the plot I see it as bad Sneakko where he let someone bang his girl in front of him

Some netorase are super wholesome like the one where everyone is still in love with said girl where no one person is not sad depressed or full of regrets while some are still as bad as netorare from what i can remember reading cause it's hard to find the wholesome netorare compared to the main stuff where everything is just depressing

Honestly, the whole Netorare genre needs to be broken down into more subgenres. I can already see several different categories inside it. Sure, two subgenres have already split from it, but there are definitely more. As for Netorase, unfortunately, most of its works are basically just Netorare, where the protagonist stands there crying while the other guy does whatever he wants. And honestly, I agree with Shadowbanned on this point.

@Shadowbanned they can, the protagonist doesn't have to initiate he can just agree like in #650280 | Boku no Tanomi de Hoka no Otoko to SEX… | 9,960 where the girlfriend initiates it and he agrees. @minminazusa the significant other can't be stolen from the protagonist or that would just be netorare.

Netorase works typically starts with one of the couple suggesting netorase. Will this also apply when the netorase is an end result of netorare? Like the fallen girlfriend suggest the boyfriend to watch, or the cuck develop a fetish and asks to watch. Personally, I suggest it only apply for the opening theme, not when the element appears later.

No. Netorase is not possible by "inaction" Netorase is done at the direction of the cuck.

i would say the first line sums it up pretty well. Edited a little. "By the deliberate actions/inactions of the protagonist, or by the agreement with the significant other, their committed partner ends up engaging in sexual relations with other people. Only protagonist's significant other has sex with others."

2/2 "... Don't confuse with Swinging where both romantic partners have sex with others, or Polyamory, which is a long time agreement involving romantic feelings, while Netorase is a momentary satisfaction of a kink."

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