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Tag description Works that intentionally go out of their way to focus on anal sex.
note Includes M/F and F/F but not Yaoi in keeping with the spirit of the original tag.

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  1. 1gnorePlease 33d ago
    Note
    -Other things can be included with this tag, so long as anal is a deliberate focus.
    +Includes M/F and F/F but not Yaoi in keeping with the spirit of the original tag.
  2. 1gnorePlease 72d ago
    Note
    -Other things can be included with this tag, so long as anal is a deliberate choice.
    +Other things can be included with this tag, so long as anal is a deliberate focus.
  3. 1gnorePlease 72d ago

    Removed the "Typically Straight in nature" comment. However because this tag has traditionaly avoided Yaoi content, I figured there should be some distinction between deliberate or default actions.

    Description
    -Works that are deliberately focused on Anal Sex. Typically Straight in nature.
    +Works that intentionally go out of their way to focus on anal sex.
    Note
    -Just to get a description started
    +Other things can be included with this tag, so long as anal is a deliberate choice.

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Kōmon no seijō shoken
Kōmon no seijō shoken
"Works that intentionally go out of their way to focus on" the anus.
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
@mister_name > I'm just saying I can see where one might split hairs on the matter - I mean it's not the most extraordinary take, like I can understand it too. It just introduces exceptions against current tags which is the entire issue I have with it > pregnancy isn't considered a default sex act - When I mentioned "default" I used it as it applied to the tag itself. [Anal] is the default of [yaoi] and [pregnant women] is the default of [pregnancy].
mister_name
mister_name
@fuckriri1234 I probably should have been more clear myself, I am for including m/m works in this tag. I'm just saying I can see where one might split hairs on the matter. The pregnancy example doesn't fully hold water because pregnancy isn't considered a default sex act. The reason why there isn't a "focus vaginal" tag is because it is not considered remarkable to have m/f hentai with a focus on PiV sex, that's just sort of to be expected. Even with tags like "paizuri" and "blowjob" where the act is extremely commonly depicted, they are rarely the actual focus, and so they are worthy of their own tags mentioning said focus. Yaoi and yuri get their own tags, but there is no "straight" tag because that is considered the default. That particular aspect sucks for a bunch of reasons, but it's how a lot of tagging systems on porn websites work at the moment.
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
@mister_name for now, I think [focus x] just means that a majority (50% or more) of a gallery's sex scenes are x (anal in this case). the argument for m/m primarily being anal has some logical basis. however, allowing the m/m exception to be made breaks the entire site's conventions of uniform and fair tagging > I do, however, see the merits of the argument that because anal is the perceived default for m/m sex [...] there should maybe be a higher bar for m/m - sorry, but this is completely illogical. Women are the default of pregnancy, but it's asinine to argue that they should be excluded from [focus pregnancy] because it "convolutes" the tag or whatever. i really dont know how to make it anymore clear
mister_name
mister_name
imo just as the inclusion of anal sex in an m/f work does not automatically make it "focus anal", I think there's an argument to be made that some m/m works could qualify for the tag if there is a focus on anal eroticism above and beyond what is typical of such works. I do, however, see the merits of the argument that because anal is the perceived default for m/m sex and more of a particular niche in m/f, there should maybe be a higher bar for m/m? As well as f/m works that involve men being penetrated.
1gnorePlease
1gnorePlease
I agree that Yaoi should be excluded from this tag for multiple different reasons. However I can't think of a good way of putting it, any suggestions?
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
even if [yaoi] + [anal] is sufficient enough (which is a terrible premise but i digress), that doesnt mean we should break the established standard of how focus tags (or tags in general) are used you can have your cake and eat it with a [straight anal] proposal, but quit trying to make exceptions to the *entire site's tagging system* simply because u cant bear to see two men fucking lol 🫃👻 this is literally you: "[pregnant] is inherently women-focused, so galleries with pregnant women ackshually shouldnt be tagged with [pregnant]. It should instead be reserved for male pregnancy because, uh, yeah! For searchability and specific something or other! Damn queers taking over my thoughts while I strok- errrr they stroke their egos! I'm not gay I promise!" keep fighting ghosts bro
lilbro
lilbro
That argument is silly. No one benefits from that except for the ego of yaoi fans for getting there way and getting to force it into people's searches. Just Yaoi and the normal anal tag is sufficient enough to find that with any male on male work, because its the norm. The "handful" of male on male works that don't involve anal don't change that the vast majority do already by default and that it would be redundant
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
there are plenty of non-anal sex acts for gay material, so it's just wrong to say "gay content is inherently focused on anal" lesbians with strap ons, tentacles, or any other non-human sex can still be anally focused, but that's all excluded if focus anal = male on female I get where you're coming from, but tags should be applied uniformly and fairly. this is not a "sexuality specific" tag, and introducing exceptions like that makes the site confusing you can blacklist yaoi or propose [straight anal] if you're so offended by yaoi works. this is coming from a straight dude, so you're fighting ghosts about the "one particular crowd" comment lol I just want a consistent site
lilbro
lilbro
The point of tags is to refine searches and be as specific as possible. Only one particular crowd wants definitions to be "less specific" and "less defined" and it's not the straight one.
lilbro
lilbro
This should specify that its for male and female content, because gay content is inherently focused on anal. Either that, or create a new tag that specificly for straight works that focus on anal, because this tag will become useless if its usage includes male on male.
1gnorePlease
1gnorePlease
Should I add on to the note section with: ...a deliberate focus [as opposed to a quick side-quest.]?
1gnorePlease
1gnorePlease
In hindsight that last part could have been worded differently. Let me know what y'all think of the revision.
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
@Innocuous_Duck I get where you're coming from but that would contradict the tagging system as we know it. Focus tags (i.e. cunnilingus, blowjob, paizuri, rimjob) are not exclusive to one sexual orientation nor do they specify the receiver's/giver's gender. Ditto for anal. Thus, focus anal shouldn't exclude sexual orientations either, even if a lot of the tag would be comprised of yaoi content I think I can get behind the male/female, but I'm on the fence
Innocuous_Duck
Innocuous_Duck
This tag shouldn't apply to yaoi content at all as it is, as it would render the current point of the tag irrelevant, as it is most often used to tag content that is focused on female anal Either the rules need to be clearer and the description include that, or a new "female anal focus" tag should be made along with a "male anal focus" Should be something like "works focused on a (gender) primarily receiving anal" Also definitely shouldn't be changed to anal only as it is way too restrictive as mentioned.
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
not an advocate for anal only, solely because as @Osamu09 says, it would be too restrictive and redundant. And again, nipple, clit, and vaginal stimulation, kissing, licking, biting, earplay, armpit play, etc. The very existence of all of these sources of stimulation makes it extremely hard for "anal only" works to exist like Osamu said On the other hand, tags like "incest only" and "females only" dont have as much of a likelihood of being broken create tag incest only +21
timmytoughknuckle
timmytoughknuckle
Advocate for "Anal only" tag
dork42
dork42
Anal only would be a very good tag imo, i feel like it is needed.
Osamu09
Osamu09
I thought about it and I think "focus anal" should keep being mostly anal rather than only anal and here's the reasoning. Better to use an example actually. A character is getting anally fucked while their nipples are being stimulated. Technically it's not only anal. But ok, let's assume that "only" means "only type of penetration". I still think that would be too restrictive. And here's the example I was looking at: . Someone suggested to remove the "focus anal" tag but other than like 1 page, in every other one where penetration happens, the anus is being stimulated at most it might make more sense to create an "anal only" tag, but I think that would be too redundant. So it's probably better to keep it like this. As a side note it would be nice to specify it doesn't have to be anal only in the description
hunter9246
hunter9246
Can there be a note saying yaoi only/male only works shouldn't be included with this tag? It seems redundant to include
1gnorePlease
1gnorePlease
Anyways it can always be changed at a later date if deemed necessary.
1gnorePlease
1gnorePlease
Fair enough, I just figured including Yaoi content would render this tag largely useless otherwise. But because Yuri can also deliberately focus on Anal, I said “typically” instead of “always” or “entirely”.
GoingBlind
GoingBlind
Would exclude that second sentence, because, to quote Kazuma Satou in Konosuba, "I yearn for true gender equality."
petertje
petertje
The "official" definition of this tag is "Indicates that the instances of anal exceed 50% of the gallery's content." but that definition has never been followed to the letter. It basically just means "this has a lot of anal". This doesn't exclude yaoi and historically there have been yaoi galleries tagged with focus anal, though not very often. That might not make a lot of sense at first glance, but there are some yaoi doujins like where there is literally no sex act other than anal. I think if you change "typically" to "usually" then this description would be fine.
Nezukarr
Nezukarr
I'd argue that it can still apply to Yaoi (and Shemale tagged content). In this case it's when the bottom character gets anally stimulated and never has their dick touched. So no blowjob or even fapping for them.
itsuna
itsuna
I pretty sure we should excluded all pussy penetration from focus anal
itsuna
itsuna
I pretty sure we should excluded all pussy penetration from focus anal
40-sai archwizard
40-sai archwizard
Some lolicon content like just about every mamezou's doujins have focus anal in it, just the backdoor and not the front. Also often used in conjunction with the chastity belt tag like . Just saying that focus anal is not necessarily gay content.
Drevnik2
Drevnik2
Works that contain scenes of anal sex/petting/masturbation of female, and more than 70% of r18 content is focused on a rectum (Included a female because males just dont have many options, so any yaoi will be anal focused, making this tag basically useless if somebody eith only one hole being on receiving side, but i might be wrong here because pussy boy (reverse Futanari) may have other hole, but i still think that it needs to say in description that somebody have other holes but it focused on anal)