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A child trying to act like an adult in a bad or rebellious way. Usually teasing or ridicule adults, in a sexual way. It can also be used to describe women in a sexual way, or to refer to women as slutty.

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Literally, "bitch brat". A young girl who acts sassy and provocative towards adults in a sexually charged manner.

note From Pixiv description, I believe this description can fit to describe these sassy suck semen demons girls that we love.
staff Accepted with no note.
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vagooo
vagooo
I'm really happy with how this discussion turned out and how ranchdong applied this. Thanks for this everyone. I think although 'bitch' might seem odd at first glance, it probably makes sense given how JP use 'bitch' [ビッチ] to mean 'slutty'— keyword search this site or see: https://jisho.org/search/ビッチ for example. Which is a bit different from EN usage now/generally but it's still kinda there. Strongly reject @Edge Department: read some of my comments in this thread. If a better def can be made, I think people need to submit a new suggestion. But this is pretty good, honestly.
fuckriri1234
fuckriri1234
@bajoujou ehhh I mean I understand bitch brat myself. would "provocative/sassy/annoying/teasing/etc brat" be better? I feel like the "brat" part is necessary tbh
bajoujou
bajoujou
"bitch brat" is a bizarre translation imo
MuerteCruel
MuerteCruel
Too long, change the description to "checky/smug brat".
ihateniggersandqueers
ihateniggersandqueers
vagooo i think he means that it often qualifies for works *also* labeled with the "loli" tag
vagooo
vagooo
@სადისტური: not 'Often qualifies for loli'. Not just 'often' it *is* a loli category. Purely because of 'gaki' which is slang for brat, applied to children (although it does have an interesting kanji etymology as a chinese loan-term). But it's often just rendered in katakana and isn't used outside of describing kids. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/餓鬼
სადისტური
სადისტური
Literally, "bitch brat". A young girl who acts sassy and provocative towards adults in a sexually charged manner. Often qualifies for loli. (...) Typical attributes include smug or naughty expressions, a mocking laugh, a single fang / skin fang, twintails, short shorts, miniskirts/microskirts, exposed midriff, calling people "zako", etc. May be an oppai loli.
Oliver Klaushoff
Oliver Klaushoff
Reminder that "kusogaki" is "shitty brat": a kid who's a spoiled brat. Think of a kid (or childish adult) in manga/anime that pulls down their eyelid and sticks their tongue out. Like vagooo said, a mesugaki is a little girl who teases adult men. It's not usually just a bad kid that gets corrected out of nowhere - the kid antagonizes the man into action. The dynamic is similar to a purposefully disobedient sub in sub/dom play, although it's up to the author to decide whether the brat gets forcibly corrected or if she's actually trying to get sex in the first place. However, I don't know if mesugaki is exclusively gendered for female - if it's used for a shotacon/woman pairing it's rare or I've forgotten. Straight shota "reverse rape" is a very hot dynamic, by the way. Just putting my opinion out there. ( ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)
Pornupine
Pornupine
Much like mesugaki themselves, this description needs to get corrected. The last part of the description is inaccurate and way to broad. Any description that doesn't include "brat" or "bratty" feels incomplete. Character archetype of a girl who behaves in a bratty, impudent, and provocative manner—typically this is done by teasing and mocking them.
40-sai archwizard
40-sai archwizard
Just like the OP said, he ripped off the description from Pixiv: https://dic.pixiv.net/en/a/Mesugaki ... and he did a poor job of it. That very website has the proper combined description he failed to post: "A bratty, feral, untamed loli with the sexual appeal and personality of a wild animal that regularly ridicules adults and mocks them both sexually and socially. At the same time, the metaphor is the perspective of an adult who views the girl child sexually."
vagooo
vagooo
Jisho is the most on point: https://jisho.org/word/メスガキ 'cheeky, vulgar brat; impudent young temptress​' So I don't agree with OP @Jegutimantion's suggestion that it refers to a 'women as slutty' or 'women' in general. People: this is a loli-exclusive category. I agree a def is needed but OP's has many flaws. @Jegutimantion' didn't link pixiv but here is their dic page for it and it doesn't match the OP's post. In fact, there's better detail: https://dic.pixiv.net/a/メスガキ Excerpt (corrected machine translation): 'Female brat: Slang for a [female] child. In particular, it refers to fictional girl characters who engage in provocative words and actions, or to their attributes'. ^ It's a long article and there's some better clarity: a mesugaki situation could be non-sexual (true). Also a fembrat 'has sexual knowledge'— so they know what they're doing because that's what they use to bully/dominate. I will vote down this proposal, it's not close enough for me.
femlo
femlo
Literally means "fembrat". Describes girls who are small, young, provocative, suggestive, sexual, and brash towards adults or their superiors, are full of self-confidence & assertive about it, and have a tendency to be temptresses/teases.
TheOneWhoCocks
TheOneWhoCocks
A better description would be "Someone with a bratty attitude that's in need of correction." 😭UUUUUUOOOHHH!!!